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Certifications for Code admin in Elevators
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Re: Certifications for Code admin in Elevators By  Builder bob

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7/20/2006 8:15:00 AM

Because elevators are regulated by ANSI standards. The shaft that surrounds the elevator is regulated by the building code.


   

Re: Certifications for Code admin in Elevators By  mcphajo

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7/21/2006 7:36:00 PM

Bob,

Is there anything in the building code that draws a line where the elevator guys jurisdiction ends and the building officials jurisdiction begins?


   

Re: Certifications for Code admin in Elevators By  Walt

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7/24/2006 4:40:00 AM

Elevators in our jurisdiction are regulated by ASME 17.1.

The National Association of Elevator Safety Authority (NAESA)certifies and tests elevator inspectors.

The Building Code regulates the shaft and standard installation requirements (NEC, etc.) I think the lines are pretty clear. There will also be coordination and communiccation required between the Fire Alarm systems for recall requirements.

BOCA used to have a test for elevator inpsectors, which I took and passed about 15 years ago, but it certainly did not qualify me to test and inspect elevators.


   

Re: Certifications for Code admin in Elevators By  Builder bob

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7/24/2006 11:33:00 AM

Walt....thanks for correctly identifing the standard for the elevators.


   

Re: Certifications for Code admin in Elevators By  CNY Elevator Consultants

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7/25/2006 5:28:00 PM

Builder Bob,

Please let me clarify where the "elevator guys" responsiblilty begins and ends. The ASME A17.1 Safety Code for Elevators and Escalators part 8.11 (etc) states the QEI certified elevator inspector shall be "employed by or authorized by the authority having jurisdiction"

The intention is the the AHJ will designate the inspector. That means you as the AHJ determines where his authority begins and ends.

Additionally, where a building code exists, it ALWAYS has jurisdiction over the elevator code. In fact many parts of ASME A17.1 specifically leave certain portions of the design up to the Building Code including; Hoistway and pit construction.

One more clarification, NAESA, is one 3 organizations that are approved by ASME to provide QEI certification.


   

Re: Certifications for Code admin in Elevators By  Uncle Bob

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7/25/2006 5:50:00 PM

In Texas, AHJs usually don''t mess with elevators. We leave that to the Texas State Elevator Saftey and Licensing Advisory Board.

http://www.license.state.tx.us/elevator/elelaw.htm#018

Kinda like leaving the expertise to the experts.

(Quote)The ASME A17.1 Safety Code for Elevators and Escalators part 8.11 (etc) states the QEI certified elevator inspector shall be "employed by or authorized by the authority having jurisdiction"


ASME A17.1 does not have authority of State Laws.


   

Re: Certifications for Code admin in Elevators By  Builder bob

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7/26/2006 1:48:00 PM

South Carolina also has and elevator and admusement section. The interior of the shafts are their''s, the outside of the shaft is ours. At plan review time, we verify shaft construction is 1, 2, or 3 hour fire reistant rated as applicable per code.


   

Re: Certifications for Code admin in Elevators By  Shankar

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7/31/2006 2:32:00 PM

Finally,I should say that this topic has developed into various sub topics...My intention was to spark a dialog to find ways of making ICC do the certification.I am also a QEI certified by Lift technologies.However,the number of companies allowed to certify is quite low.If a guy like me wants to get accredited from ASME it is going to cost a fortune.
Elevator inspection by itself is a kind of specialists'' industry as described in this topic.Any suggestios to just make it available to a lot more people???


   

Re: Certifications for Code admin in Elevators By  Shankar

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8/8/2006 1:47:00 PM

Any Elevator inspector from Wisconsin around in this blog??


   

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