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Re: ICC 300 By  swansont

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11/20/2008 12:46:00 PM

Looks like it is compliant...

407.1 Required aisle accessways. Aisle accessways shall be provided above the first row of seating. Aisle accessways located more than 30 inches (762 mm) above the floor or ground below shall be constructed such that openings shall not allow the passage of a sphere greater than 4 inches (102 mm) in diameter. Where bleacher-type seating is utilized, such seats shall be a minimum depth of 9 inches (229 mm).


   

Re: ICC 300 By  david g. gran

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11/21/2008 8:57:00 AM

Thank you.

GPE


   

Re: ICC 300 By  Coug Dad

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11/21/2008 9:22:00 AM

Check Section 1025.14.1. Even though you may not be smoke protected, it is not a good idea to have a drop off from a cross aisle of any size without a guardrail.


   

Re: ICC 300 By  david g. gran

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11/21/2008 11:14:00 AM

OK. The way I read 1025.14.1; unless the backs of the seats adjacent to the cross aisle project 24" or more above the floor surface, regardless of the 9" gap, a guard not less than 26" above the aisle floor shall be required.
I don''t understand what not being smoke protected has to do with it, though.

Thank you, Coug Dad. I may be able to use that.

GPE.


   

Re: ICC 300 By  Coug Dad

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11/21/2008 11:26:00 AM

Georgia,

My bad. Remembering back when that entire section was for smoke protected assembly seating.


   

Re: ICC 300 By  swansont

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11/21/2008 11:47:00 AM

Except it doesn''t apply. The requirements for grandstand seating are contained in ICC-300. See 1025.1 and 1025.1.1........


   

Re: ICC 300 By  david g. gran

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11/21/2008 12:12:00 PM

Actually, it?s a church auditorium. I used the term ?grandstand? because the Code defines it as ?tiered seating facilities?, which this is. Until Coug Dad referred me to 1025.14.1 I was unable to find a Code Section addressing this situation. I guess I was grasping at straws by inquiring into ICC 300. I don?t know. Does ICC 300 only address outdoor grandstands? Would an interior grandstand in an Assembly occupancy fall under ICC 300, IBC or the most restrictive.

I may be over thinking this thing. It?s Friday, almost quitting time.

Have a great weekend.

GPE.


   

Re: ICC 300 By  swansont

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11/21/2008 12:36:00 PM

ICC-300 deals only with "Bleachers, Folding and Telescopic Seating, and Grandstands", which all have "tiered seating" in the definition. I don''t think ICC-300 would apply, it sounds like you have auditorium (Assembly) seating, which you could apply 1025 to.


   

Re: ICC 300 By  Bill Conner

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11/23/2008 7:40:00 AM

I believe that with tiered seating - which by definition is a grandstand - you could use either regulation - Assembly in chapter 10 or ICC 300. For too long the codes and standards - legacy, ICC, and NFPA - have relied upon designer and enforcer judgement to know which is which. From a safety point of view, there is little difference. Both can be inside or outside, both can be smoke protected or not, and both have people in fixed seating and aisle stairs. Why the grandstand seating in a cinema, the balcony in a performing arts theatre, and a church balcony are theoretically different from a safety point of view from the upper deck of a basketball or hockey arena I don''t know. Frankly, I would think the basketball or hockey place should be required to be safer, not lese safe, because of the likelihood of occupants being over-served. In my opinion, the 300 requirements permit less safe designs than the assembly requirements in chapter 10 of the IBC.


   

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