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Please Bring Job listings Back!
May 1, 2006
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thanks..... 🙂

April 28, 2006
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I am certainly disappointed at the lack of a "search within radius" function, and it''s something we discussed as being a loss. For folks in tightly packed states (New England) as well as huge states with multiple population centers (California, New York, Texas, Florida), search by state isn''t nearly as helpful as the radius search. I''ll certainly be suggesting to JobTarget that they consider adding the feature.

Sincerely,
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April 28, 2006
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It seems that some of the bugs have been worked out........still like stormy.... gettin ghard to change saddles now. When I previewed it, I couldn''t perform a search for jobs w/in a certain radius of my zip.......

And... Hats off to you web guy or gal, ( don''t want to use S & M talk ---- might get a few feathers ruffled)

I appreciate the way you take things in stride and at least try to be supportive of our issues. Cool

April 28, 2006
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Oh Great Webmaster--I am old and slow to change and this new technology frustrates me. Please forgive me for taking so long. 😉

I really like the format of the new job postings.

April 27, 2006
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For our board, it''s only jobs that were exported from our old board on Tuesday, plus those that have been posted by members or non-members through our site since then. So there aren''t any "extra" jobs.

JobTarget does specialize in these kinds of niche job boards. So if you follow the links back to their parent site, you can search through tens of thousands of their jobs from their entire network. But those jobs don''t appear on our specialized board, and we''ve tried to keep it that way. By our way of thinking, our job board is valuable precisely because of its very tight focus on building safety jobs.

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April 27, 2006
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Webmaster,

Is the company you are using obtaining posts from other sources. There seems to be more diverse job postings than I ususally see. I like it.

April 27, 2006
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Why so long? 😉

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April 27, 2006
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I took me about 37 seconds to learn the new one 😀

April 27, 2006
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It is always scary when something we are familiar with gets altered, and there is always a period of time to work out the kinks. If we never progressed as new ideas and technology are uncovered, we would still be chisling our resumes on stone.

Give it time, and let the trial and error occur. ICC has helped many people find employment through their job posting site, and I am sure they intend to continue.

I know you all are capable of learning something new.

CSL

April 27, 2006
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What do you mean, "the new board didn''t allow me to post a job for a local jurisdiction"? Either you (or they) can register and post the job. With the old board, either you (or they) had to log in and post the job. I''m missing the difference here...

To your other point about simplicity, I''m in general agreement. But the point of a niche job board like ours is to *CONNECT* people with these specific skills with jobs that require these specific skills. So telling people who want to post resumes or do a passive job search to go somewhere else doesn''t help connect these two groups at all, which is the goal.

Anyway, 114 people (and counting) have started using just the two new features that we can count. And job posts haven''t slowed a bit. Notwithstanding yours and Bob''s opposition, I''m cautiously optimistic.

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April 27, 2006
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Speaking from experience, the new board didn''t allow me to post a job for a local jurisdiction -- something I have been able to do on the ICC board. As the chapter laison for our local job seekers and posters, this has been of a benefit to some BO''s who are more old school and somewhat technologically challenged... 🙂

[b]K.I.S.S. -- KEEP IT SIMPLE SWEETHEART[/b] If the old worked. Bring it back. Like I said previously, if a job seeker wants to post resume''s, or use some of the other bells and whistles that Job Target offers, let them go there on their own. However, it seems that we have been sold something that isn''t wanted. (Kind of like the Star Rating system... but I digress!)

April 27, 2006
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I visited the new job board and I like it. Good job! Thanks for improving it and making it a more valuable resource.

April 27, 2006
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To Builder bob:
I''m honestly not trying to be argumentative, but why would an employer want to post a job on a board that is restricted from public view?

April 27, 2006
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Sorry you don''t like it. We didn''t replace our old board because it was broken. We replaced it because it was very limited in what it could do, and the new one made it more likely that job seekers would find jobs and employers would find employees.

First off, just a few minutes ago, we added in the regular search function to the top of the job listings. That had been missing and I requested last night.

For job posters:
- Except for registering the first time, the process for posting jobs is almost identical to our old process. And it checks your membership information automatically in the background.
- Posting for non-members can now be done online in minutes, where previously it required an ICC staffer to intervene, collect payment offline, and process the job.

For job seekers:
- The ability to post resumes was requested literally hundreds of times. Now we have it.
- We added job categorization, so that you can have your agents search just "Electrical Inspector" or "Structural Plans Examiner."
- Job search is better integrated.
- The Job Agents feature is miles ahead of what we had, especially since the Agents will e-mail job results that fit your searches directly (rather than having to check back and run searches repeatedly).
- Passive job search will become, over time, one of the most used features of this board. Not everyone will use it, of course.

A bunch of these things are concrete functions that simply did not exist with our old board. When you say "bells and whistles," it suggests fancy ornamentation meant to distract from underlying functions. There may be a couple of bells and whistles (listing jobs by location is very slick, for instance, but not functionally different). But everything listed above is an actual helpful function that makes finding jobs or employees easier or more efficient.

Even on our first day with the new system, we had the same kind of traffic in job posts as a normal day. Thirty-three people already posted their resumes, and eighty-one Job Agents have been activated, searching for jobs and sending results directly to job seekers.

We look forward to feedback about specific functions and features as everyone becomes acquainted with the system.

Sincerely,
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April 27, 2006
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I agree.......Bring it back? IF it is a cost factor, why not set it up so that only people with ICC membership or ICC certification be able to view it here in the old format, and still have the jobs posted on the other job service for people w/o ICC membership or certifications.

April 27, 2006
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Tried it; didn''t like it. Not as simple, or as convenient as what we had. If someone wants to post their job it is now a longer process. The same goes for looking for a job listing directly related to ICC.

If someone wants to have the bells and whistles - they can go to the other boards.

I''m sorry, but this wasn''t a good idea as I see it. So what is the benefit to ICC? IS this a cost savings?

Bottom line: if it isn''t broke, don''t fix it!

April 26, 2006
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Thank You......Webmaster

April 26, 2006
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Please re-read the note. It closed yesterday. It''s opening back up today.

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April 26, 2006
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This is not good...not good at all....I am looking for a job...... :confused:

April 26, 2006
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As our note said *VERY* explicitly, free job postings will remain a member benefit after the switch to JobTarget.

I''m sorry you''ve found JobTarget to be "more hassle than it is worth," but we did a lot of testing of their system before making the change are are convinced that its features are well worth the one extra step of requiring registration. A few of those features that stood out to our testers are: ability to save jobs, reminders, stored job lists, posting resumes, passive job search...

It''s a long list, and most of them were items that we would never have been able to provide on our old home-grown board.

Sincerely,
ICC Webmaster